HISTORICAL TRUTHS::Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May,and still smelled pretty good by June. However they were starting to smell,so brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odour.Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married. Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water.The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water,then all the other sons and men,then the women and finally the children. Last of all the babies.By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it.Hence the saying.' Don't throw the baby out with the bath water'.

To act submissively and apologetically, especially in admitting an error.
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In the USA, since the mid 19th century, anyone who had occasion to 'eat his words' by humiliatingly recanting something would be said to 'eat crow' (previously 'eat boiled crow'). Here in the UK we 'eat humble pie'. The unpleasantness of eating crow, roasted, boiled or otherwise, seems obvious, but then, what about humble pie?
In the 14th century, the numbles (or noumbles, nomblys, noubles) was the name given to the heart, liver, entrails, of animals, especially relating to that of the Deer – and is now called offal By the 15th century this had singled down to the expression umbles.
In the 15th century umbles( offal) were used as an ingredient in pies, although the first record of 'umble pie' in print is as late as the 17th century. Samuel Pepys makes many references to such pies in his diary. "I having some venison given me a day or two ago, and so I had a shoulder roasted, another baked, and the umbles baked in a pie, and all very well done."and again in1663: "Mrs Turner came in and did bring us an Umble-pie hot out of her oven, extraordinarily good."It is possible that it was the pies that caused the move from numbles to umbles. 'A numble pie' could easily have become an umble pie', in the same way that 'a napron' became 'an apron' and 'an ewt' became 'a newt'. This changing of the boundaries between words is called metanalysis and is commonplace in English.
The adjective humble, meaning 'of lowly rank' or 'having a low estimate of oneself' derived separately from umbles, which derives from Latin and Old French words for loins. (Incidentally, if you feel like girding your loins and aren't sure exactly where they are, the OED coyly describes them as 'the parts of the body that should covered with clothing'). The similarity of the sound of the words, and the fact that umble pie was often eaten by those of humble situation could easily have been the reason for 'eat humble pie' to have come to have its current idiomatic meaning.

it's an adaptation from the mid nineteenth century's 'sculdudrie which refers to sexual impropriety and has come to mean dishonest, secretive
as stated in the online etymology dictionary.
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1856, apparently an alteration of Scottish sculdudrie "adultery" (1713), sculduddery "bawdry, obscenity" (1821), a euphemism of uncertain origin.

So, guessing the 'uncertain' means there may be a hint of piracy in there..

Whoa! you lovely possums, thanks for all the new "old phrases/sayings" quite incredible, I found and interesting article in my world of "hang on this is what people say" conspiracy. >>Wired goes into a tangent. << Global Economic Slavery: Some Heads Are Gonna Roll http://cromalternativemoney.org/index.p ... -roll.html I think it's a great read also some video footage. Probably never seen on TV.

Not an appropriate place however it does have some connection due to the sheer quality and the phrase so a bonus for you lovely possums for your input.

ello boys and gals, just thought to my self how about the saying some heads are gonna roll or something like that , would be good if any of you can shed some light on it.

CHOCK-A-BLOCK

When pulleys or blocks on sailing ship were pulled so tightly together that they could not be moved any closer together they were said to be chock-a-block.

CODSWALLOP

In the 19th century wallop was slang for beer. A man named Codd began selling lemonade and it was called Codswallop. In time codswallop began to mean anything worthless or inferior and later anything untrue.

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Your Neck of the Woods: How and where did this saying come about?
This was from when woods covered much of the land.
Inhabitants used to say 'neck' to describe a home or land owned by a single founder, they would often cut through others property to reach a destination quicker.
They would say "I'm going up to your neck of the woods" this would tell the landowner they were cutting through the property.

To be caught red handed goes back to the day where the stealing of livestock was rife in England.
It was hard to catch the the and prove who commited such crimes.
Except in the cases when the villan was caught soon after they slaughtered the animal and still with blood on their hands

Many believe that the cock n bull story is tied directly to two inns in England called the The Cock and The Bull.
These establishments may have existed before the 17th century and both inns were stopping points for coaches and travellers who rested up prior to journeying onwards.
The practice of the sharing of stories at these inns and of travellers making up tales to entertain each other, especially during exceedingly journeys.
Some tales which may have exagerated and blown up out of proportion resulting in the expression 'A Cock & Bull Story'

'Mad as a Hatter'

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The felt hat industry has been traced to the mid 17th century in France, and it was probably introduced into England some time around 1830. A story passed down in the hat industry gives this account of how mercury came to be used in the process. In Turkey camel hair was used for felt material, and it was discovered that the felting process was speeded up if the fibers were moistened with camel urine. It is said that in France workmen used their own urine, but one particular workman seemed consistently to produce a superior felt. This person was being treated with a mercury compound for syphilis, and an association was made between mercury treatment of the fibers and an improved felt. Eventually the use of solutions of mercuric nitrate was widespread in the felt industry, and mercury poisoning became endemic. Dementia and erethism were indeed a common ailment among 19th Century hatmakers.

The crazy Mad Hatter of Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland is becoming widely associated with the effects of Mercury on behavior as well as physiology. Mercury was used to process the felt hats used in England around Lewis' time. Erratic, flamboyant behavior was one of the most evident alterations caused by mercury. (Others included excessive drooling, mood swings, various debilities).
But Lewis Carroll did not invent the phrase, although he did create the character. The phrases 'mad as a hatter' and "mad as a March hare" were common at the time Lewis Carroll wrote (1865 was the first publication date of Alice). The phrase had been in common use in 1837, almost 30 years earlier.